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		<title>By: Weekly News for May 22nd &#124; Cameron Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly News for May 22nd &#124; Cameron Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] titled Finding Our Defiance. Mentioned in that article is an article by Henry Baum titled The Last Stigmas of Self-Publishing, which I thought deserved it&#8217;s own mention [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Two Wings of Self-Publishing &#124; Self-Publishing Review</title>
		<link>http://www.selfpublishingreview.com/blog/2009/05/08/the-last-stigmas-of-self-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>The Two Wings of Self-Publishing &#124; Self-Publishing Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 14:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Winter left a similar comment: I&#8217;ve thought a lot about this issue: the attitudes about indie musicians vs. indie authors, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Henry, I&#039;m going to try to be slightly more coherent here...

I&#039;ve thought a lot about this issue: the attitudes about indie musicians vs. indie authors, and I think a big part of it is that a lot of the first indie music was punk and other forms of &quot;rock,&quot; which is by nature, defiant.  Punk and rock/alternative musicians tend to be &quot;defiant&quot; as well.  This defiance makes it socially acceptable within their group of other musicians to break away and do their own thing.  Being anti-establishment is very trendy.

But in writing, it&#039;s different.  Most writers just aren&#039;t that defiant.  They&#039;re grateful to have the attention of a publisher or agent.  They NEED to be validated desperately by someone who &quot;knows&quot; and can tell them they are good.  Writers seem by nature somewhat more masochistic than musicians in that there seems to be some value in the suffering itself, whether it produces anything wonderful or not.

It will take the defiant writers among us to change things so that somewhat less defiant writers can find the courage to break away from the status quo if it becomes necessary for them later.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve thought a lot about this issue: the attitudes about indie musicians vs. indie authors, and I think a big part of it is that a lot of the first indie music was punk and other forms of &#8220;rock,&#8221; which is by nature, defiant.  Punk and rock/alternative musicians tend to be &#8220;defiant&#8221; as well.  This defiance makes it socially acceptable within their group of other musicians to break away and do their own thing.  Being anti-establishment is very trendy.</p>
<p>But in writing, it&#8217;s different.  Most writers just aren&#8217;t that defiant.  They&#8217;re grateful to have the attention of a publisher or agent.  They NEED to be validated desperately by someone who &#8220;knows&#8221; and can tell them they are good.  Writers seem by nature somewhat more masochistic than musicians in that there seems to be some value in the suffering itself, whether it produces anything wonderful or not.</p>
<p>It will take the defiant writers among us to change things so that somewhat less defiant writers can find the courage to break away from the status quo if it becomes necessary for them later.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Do People Hate Self-Publishing So Much? &#124; Self-Publishing Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Do People Hate Self-Publishing So Much? &#124; Self-Publishing Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part of the reason I’m so attracted to self-publishing is that it’s so reviled.  It’s for misfits.  It truly is the publishing version of punk rock – something that anybody could do and something that people snubbed their noses at.  Something that inspired conservative outrage.  Really, when you boil it down, self-publishing is a very positive development: the ability for writers who were not able to get a book deal in a highly competitive industry to be able to find readers.  It’s totally democratic and a great example free expression.  Why you’d want to crap over something that has so many positive implications reveals something – not about self-publishing, but maybe about those who are doing the criticizing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Part of the reason I’m so attracted to self-publishing is that it’s so reviled.  It’s for misfits.  It truly is the publishing version of punk rock – something that anybody could do and something that people snubbed their noses at.  Something that inspired conservative outrage.  Really, when you boil it down, self-publishing is a very positive development: the ability for writers who were not able to get a book deal in a highly competitive industry to be able to find readers.  It’s totally democratic and a great example free expression.  Why you’d want to crap over something that has so many positive implications reveals something – not about self-publishing, but maybe about those who are doing the criticizing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New York City kids fall in love with SELF-published novels approved by the local board of ed &#124; TeleRead: Bring the E-Books Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>New York City kids fall in love with SELF-published novels approved by the local board of ed &#124; TeleRead: Bring the E-Books Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] speaking of self-publishing: The Last Stigmas of Self-Publishing, in Self-Publishing Review, via AddToAny).   Digg us! Slashdot us! Share the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Levi Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://www.selfpublishingreview.com/blog/2009/05/08/the-last-stigmas-of-self-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 07:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently blogged on the subject of bias against self-published books (http://levimontgomery.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/self-publishing-and-the-persistence-of-bias/). I get really tired of seeing this every where I turn. Contest won&#039;t accept, bookstores don&#039;t want you, reviewers won&#039;t review you. All self-published books are bad. All bad books are self-published. Sooner or later all of this will go away, just as the bias of the monks against Herr Gutenberg&#039;s new-fangled contraption. Why surely, every educated person will realize that any book not copied out by trained scribes must be inferior! It&#039;s just the same thing all over again, and I&#039;m sure it will come to pass. My only question is whether I will be alive to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently blogged on the subject of bias against self-published books (<a href="http://levimontgomery.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/self-publishing-and-the-persistence-of-bias/)" rel="nofollow">http://levimontgomery.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/self-publishing-and-the-persistence-of-bias/)</a>. I get really tired of seeing this every where I turn. Contest won&#8217;t accept, bookstores don&#8217;t want you, reviewers won&#8217;t review you. All self-published books are bad. All bad books are self-published. Sooner or later all of this will go away, just as the bias of the monks against Herr Gutenberg&#8217;s new-fangled contraption. Why surely, every educated person will realize that any book not copied out by trained scribes must be inferior! It&#8217;s just the same thing all over again, and I&#8217;m sure it will come to pass. My only question is whether I will be alive to see it.</p>
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