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		<title>By: klcrumley</title>
		<link>http://www.selfpublishingreview.com/blog/2009/05/09/why-do-people-hate-self-publishing-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-4049</link>
		<dc:creator>klcrumley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and forgot to add:  You are right.  The general public doesn&#039;t care whether a book is self-published or not.  They care more about it being in their favorite genre, or it being a &quot;good read.&quot;  They don&#039;t care who publishes it.  

It&#039;s not like people are going around stating things like &quot;I only read Daw books,&quot; the way some women say &quot;I only cary Coach(tm) purses.&quot; It would be a scary world if they did.  

The only 2 complaints I&#039;ve ever heard from the general public are that they are hard to find (not available at Borders and such) and they are more expensive.  But there are certainly ways around both those problems now a days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and forgot to add:  You are right.  The general public doesn&#8217;t care whether a book is self-published or not.  They care more about it being in their favorite genre, or it being a &#8220;good read.&#8221;  They don&#8217;t care who publishes it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like people are going around stating things like &#8220;I only read Daw books,&#8221; the way some women say &#8220;I only cary Coach(tm) purses.&#8221; It would be a scary world if they did.  </p>
<p>The only 2 complaints I&#8217;ve ever heard from the general public are that they are hard to find (not available at Borders and such) and they are more expensive.  But there are certainly ways around both those problems now a days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: klcrumley</title>
		<link>http://www.selfpublishingreview.com/blog/2009/05/09/why-do-people-hate-self-publishing-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-4047</link>
		<dc:creator>klcrumley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 06:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate is a very strong emotion, and should be reserved for the people who deserve it: rapists, murderers, terrorists &amp; pedophiles.  

NOT indie authors, just trying to get their book out...snobs are ridiculous!  tsk.  

Notice the fools have no problem with celebritantes putting out books that they didn&#039;t even write because they cannot spell worth a damn due to the braindamage inflicted by cocaine (or whatever drug they chose).  
And, get this...their dogs can get a book deal too!
OOOH, no problem with that.  but let someone with an acutal college degree in english lit put something out there using lulu/createspace and it&#039;s the friggin literary armagedon?!  :(


I&#039;m not going to bother arguing with the elitist snobs and haters anymore.  &quot;The haters are the help, and I don&#039;t argue with the help.&quot;
by that, I mean they make me work harder, and with more fervor to make my book the very best it can be...
better even than thiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate is a very strong emotion, and should be reserved for the people who deserve it: rapists, murderers, terrorists &amp; pedophiles.  </p>
<p>NOT indie authors, just trying to get their book out&#8230;snobs are ridiculous!  tsk.  </p>
<p>Notice the fools have no problem with celebritantes putting out books that they didn&#8217;t even write because they cannot spell worth a damn due to the braindamage inflicted by cocaine (or whatever drug they chose).<br />
And, get this&#8230;their dogs can get a book deal too!<br />
OOOH, no problem with that.  but let someone with an acutal college degree in english lit put something out there using lulu/createspace and it&#8217;s the friggin literary armagedon?!  <img src='http://www.selfpublishingreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to bother arguing with the elitist snobs and haters anymore.  &#8220;The haters are the help, and I don&#8217;t argue with the help.&#8221;<br />
by that, I mean they make me work harder, and with more fervor to make my book the very best it can be&#8230;<br />
better even than thiers.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, people suck. And I&#039;m working on this new plan where I ignore about 95% of them so they can be stupid on their time and not mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, people suck. And I&#8217;m working on this new plan where I ignore about 95% of them so they can be stupid on their time and not mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Daws</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Daws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are also, I think, people who are outraged that anyone should have the arrogance to publish (and market) their own book as though it were actually any good.

Most of my books are published by conventional publishers or commissioned by clients. But because some are sold online, there is the perception that I publish them myself. Here&#039;s a typical example of what can happen. A few months ago I posted a request for suggestions on a piece of text for a training course I was writing. I got several outraged replies along the lines, &#039;You&#039;re charging money for this and you want other people to help write it for you?&#039; When I revealed that the course was commissioned by a client, the response was basically, &#039;Oh, that&#039;s all right, then.&#039;

It seems a very odd state of affairs to me, though. If I&#039;m working for a client, then asking for advice shows that I&#039;m a hard-working artisan trying to do his best by his employers. But if I&#039;m self-publishing, by asking for help I&#039;m leeching on the goodwill of others. And yet, either way, I&#039;m simply trying to do the best job I can and earn a living.

It truly is a very strange world at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are also, I think, people who are outraged that anyone should have the arrogance to publish (and market) their own book as though it were actually any good.</p>
<p>Most of my books are published by conventional publishers or commissioned by clients. But because some are sold online, there is the perception that I publish them myself. Here&#8217;s a typical example of what can happen. A few months ago I posted a request for suggestions on a piece of text for a training course I was writing. I got several outraged replies along the lines, &#8216;You&#8217;re charging money for this and you want other people to help write it for you?&#8217; When I revealed that the course was commissioned by a client, the response was basically, &#8216;Oh, that&#8217;s all right, then.&#8217;</p>
<p>It seems a very odd state of affairs to me, though. If I&#8217;m working for a client, then asking for advice shows that I&#8217;m a hard-working artisan trying to do his best by his employers. But if I&#8217;m self-publishing, by asking for help I&#8217;m leeching on the goodwill of others. And yet, either way, I&#8217;m simply trying to do the best job I can and earn a living.</p>
<p>It truly is a very strange world at times.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Rooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in all of this we need to ask ourselves where the &#039;hate&#039; is coming from when self published books and their authors are criticized for writing and producing a poor quality. I don&#039;t believe for a second the vast weight is coming from the general reading public. The criticism comes most from with the book industry itself. I don&#039;t think most readers question whether a book is self published or not and for that matter much self published work is not even accessible to the general reader, that is, their  branch of high street book store.

Let us also not forget, whoever criticizes or hates a self published book is knocking books and badly written books as a whole. That is a reflection on book publishing and not just self publishing. It is time we got ourselves away from this &#039;them and us&#039; argument.

People don&#039;t hate self published books - however, some people in book publishing, be they publishers, authors or retailers do &#039;hate&#039; self publishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in all of this we need to ask ourselves where the &#8216;hate&#8217; is coming from when self published books and their authors are criticized for writing and producing a poor quality. I don&#8217;t believe for a second the vast weight is coming from the general reading public. The criticism comes most from with the book industry itself. I don&#8217;t think most readers question whether a book is self published or not and for that matter much self published work is not even accessible to the general reader, that is, their  branch of high street book store.</p>
<p>Let us also not forget, whoever criticizes or hates a self published book is knocking books and badly written books as a whole. That is a reflection on book publishing and not just self publishing. It is time we got ourselves away from this &#8216;them and us&#8217; argument.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t hate self published books &#8211; however, some people in book publishing, be they publishers, authors or retailers do &#8216;hate&#8217; self publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: A. F. Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. F. Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious Renee, do you think self-publishing authors are more willing to plagiarize another author?  Or do you think plagiarizers are flocking to self-publishing?  I don&#039;t see how traditional publishing offers greater protection against plagiarizing; editors are only human and don&#039;t have all-knowing insight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious Renee, do you think self-publishing authors are more willing to plagiarize another author?  Or do you think plagiarizers are flocking to self-publishing?  I don&#8217;t see how traditional publishing offers greater protection against plagiarizing; editors are only human and don&#8217;t have all-knowing insight.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree, Andrew, that the mode of publishing doesn&#039;t always mean quality. Frankly, I think any self-published author who is serious about writing as a career should care about the quality of their work.  We should ensure before it goes to print we have done our due diligence on research and have had others help with proofing and editing.  Of course, anyone can buy editing services, but I&#039;m lucky to have a friend who does editing and will be helping me with my fiction novel.   I have read published books from publishing companies that were filled with typos, which absolutely amazed me.

As for plagiarizing, I just recently touched on the topic on my blog at http://thepriceofinnocence.blogspot.com regarding recent news of famous authors accused of plagiarism and my own thoughts regarding the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, Andrew, that the mode of publishing doesn&#8217;t always mean quality. Frankly, I think any self-published author who is serious about writing as a career should care about the quality of their work.  We should ensure before it goes to print we have done our due diligence on research and have had others help with proofing and editing.  Of course, anyone can buy editing services, but I&#8217;m lucky to have a friend who does editing and will be helping me with my fiction novel.   I have read published books from publishing companies that were filled with typos, which absolutely amazed me.</p>
<p>As for plagiarizing, I just recently touched on the topic on my blog at <a href="http://thepriceofinnocence.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://thepriceofinnocence.blogspot.com</a> regarding recent news of famous authors accused of plagiarism and my own thoughts regarding the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other people always proof-read and fact-check my books. My upcoming book involves baseball. Now, I know a fair amount about baseball, but I asked a local sports reporter who covers the Boston Red Sox to read the book and give me any technical advice he could. Most everything was fine, but some terminology around how they refer to pitching rotations needed to be updated.

It&#039;s easy to think that because something is corporatized, it&#039;s better. I&#039;ve worked in and with major publishing operations, and frankly you get a range of quality -- based on the people involved, how much they care, and how much they know.

The mode of publishing doesn&#039;t define the quality of the finished product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other people always proof-read and fact-check my books. My upcoming book involves baseball. Now, I know a fair amount about baseball, but I asked a local sports reporter who covers the Boston Red Sox to read the book and give me any technical advice he could. Most everything was fine, but some terminology around how they refer to pitching rotations needed to be updated.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to think that because something is corporatized, it&#8217;s better. I&#8217;ve worked in and with major publishing operations, and frankly you get a range of quality &#8212; based on the people involved, how much they care, and how much they know.</p>
<p>The mode of publishing doesn&#8217;t define the quality of the finished product.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renee,

I don&#039;t think you know the answer.  Most &quot;serious&quot; self-publishing authors, or indie authors bring in OTHER people who are qualified to edit and fact check and proof-read.  As for plagiarizing there have been cases where NY published books had to be pulled because of plagiarizing.  Even a NY editor cannot possibly know the content of every single other thing ever published.  The legal onus for that sort of thing in contracts ALWAYS falls back to the author. So ultimately, no matter how you&#039;re published, as an author YOU and you alone are ultimately responsible for the plagiarism issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you know the answer.  Most &#8220;serious&#8221; self-publishing authors, or indie authors bring in OTHER people who are qualified to edit and fact check and proof-read.  As for plagiarizing there have been cases where NY published books had to be pulled because of plagiarizing.  Even a NY editor cannot possibly know the content of every single other thing ever published.  The legal onus for that sort of thing in contracts ALWAYS falls back to the author. So ultimately, no matter how you&#8217;re published, as an author YOU and you alone are ultimately responsible for the plagiarism issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m curious about is, when you are self-publishing, who is doing the fact checking, the editing and the proof-reading? Who is checking to see the author is not plagiarizing another author? I think I know the answer, and that frightens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m curious about is, when you are self-publishing, who is doing the fact checking, the editing and the proof-reading? Who is checking to see the author is not plagiarizing another author? I think I know the answer, and that frightens me.</p>
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