Self-Publishing Review

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DIY or Hire it out? (12 posts)

Topic tags: book design, cover design
  • Profile picture of Joel Friedlander Joel Friedlander said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Self-publishers need to decide whether to do their own book design, both for the book cover and the interior. What makes you decide to DIY, and are there times that might be the wrong choice?

  • Profile picture of Henry Baum Henry Baum said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    I know you’re a typographer, but I think interior needs to come third in line behind the cover and editing. If you’re on a budget and need to cut a corner, that’s probably where it will happen.

    How much does interior design run generally compared to a cover? I’ve designed the interior on my two s-p books – not perfectly by any means.

  • Profile picture of Joel Friedlander Joel Friedlander said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Novels are the easiest to deal with if they are simply running narrative with chapters and text breaks but no other formatting. The last novel I did cost the client $650 for a 200 page book and looked absolutely gorgeous. He got three samples unique to his book and a chance to influence the design at that point. I also did his cover ($600). Because he had a tie-in with a non-profit, he sold over 500 books in the first couple of weeks and went into the black upon publication, although I don’t know how much he paid for editing.

    I agree that the absolute requirement is competent editing, first and foremost. If you can only afford editing, don’t even hesitate. It’s much more important than what the book looks like as long as it’s readable!

  • Profile picture of Nathan Lowell Nathan Lowell said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    I’m a firm believer in DIY, but I’ve seen the horrible results of that decision, too.

    One of the requirements for my podcast novels is a “cover art” image and I think most people make a few common mistakes.

    1. Too much detail. For our covers, they *must* be 144 x 212px. That’s a *tiny* picture. When you put a highly detailed image and a subtitle, plus your name, what’s left is mud.

    2. Badly drawn people. You’ve seen ‘em. You know what I mean.

    3. Too little attention to design. Picture-Text-Publish is a recipe for disaster.

    For most of my covers, I use a high resolution Hubble photo (they’re space opera. space is good.) and then layer a simple title/author message on the top. My simple covers stand out in the mass and you can actually read the titles. Moreover, the government document photos are in the public domain, so free.

    A couple of my covers use a combination of hand drawn and photo samples from my own work. There’s probably better choices but I like them.

    Internal book design is something I haven’t had to deal with, but I expect to soon as the works go onto paper later this year. Color, white space, font, and layout are all subjects that are near and dear to me, and I confess a certain giddy anticipation.

  • Profile picture of Joel Friedlander Joel Friedlander said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Very interesting Nathan. Are these podcasts that are shown/sold through the iTunes Store? I’m not familiar with the 144 x 212 px standard.

    Perhaps it’s asking a lot to imagine that prospective self-publishers will be able to decide whether they have the “chops” to do their own design, or should hire a professional for their book interiors and covers. What do you think?

    I certainly know that feeling of “giddy anticipation” that strikes the heart of the typophile when contemplating a new project. Have fun!

  • Profile picture of Cathi Stevenson Cathi Stevenson said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Reading the endless threads on Lulu and CreateSpace concerning the mishaps that occur when people try to understand the technical formatting of a book (never mind the design) I have to say that sometimes it’s cheaper to pay with money.

  • Profile picture of Joel Friedlander Joel Friedlander said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Cathi, there was a long thread recently on one of the listservs about an author simply trying to get a type sample before he ordered his book from CreateSpace, and how in the end they were simply unable to supply him with any samples at all. It seemed both sad and amazing.

  • Profile picture of Nathan Lowell Nathan Lowell said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Joel, the books are available through the iTunes Music Store, yes, but the standard size I have to work with comes from podiobooks.com where they established the size they want for cover art for their catalog. Publishing on Podiobooks pushes my work into iTunes.

    As for chops, it’s a good question. I’ve had a lot of training in graphical design, typography, and layout. That’s undoubtedly an advantage. I also think anybody who’s competent in webdesign has the basics of layout down and the discipline to understand that the technology drives the bus.

    Of course, given the number of really bad website designs, perhaps it’s a bigger hurdle than I imagine. :)

  • Profile picture of Patty G. Henderson darkmistress said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    I do everything myself, including the cover design. I also do cover work for other independent authors and publishers. I use mostly photographic collage imagery.

  • Profile picture of Joel Friedlander Joel Friedlander said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Nathan, that’s an interesting analogy between graphic design for websites and book design. I just came across a “self-published” book by 2 bloggers that was a pretty high-end launch. The bloggers hired a web designer to do the book, which (in my opinion anyway) was a disaster. Although both use typography, I don’t think there’s anything else connecting the two. I don’t mean that web designers couldn’t design good books, but that they typical web designer doesn’t know basic elements of book design, unless they take the time to find out. The article about it is here: http://bit.ly/6vOSwN

  • Profile picture of Nathan Lowell Nathan Lowell said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    Ouch, that’s painful.

    You’re right, it is a disaster, but I’d also argue that if the designer *understood* the basics of web design, he/she didn’t apply them to the book.

    Of course, I’m arguing from the perspective of somebody who learned website design concepts from Schaeffer and Fust, Bauhaus, and Bringhurst, so I may not be a good judge.

  • Profile picture of Robin Sullivan Robin Sullivan said 2 years, 4 months ago:

    I’ll chime in here on priorities.

    1) Editing – A poorly edited book can kill a good story. The whole golden spot of books is word of mouth advertising and if the book is an embarrassment from an editing standpoint it can’t be easily recommended to others.
    2) Cover Design – even books sold only “online” will need a cover and a poorly designed cover will prevent people from “giving it a try”. A lot can be done with a good royalty free graphic and well placed text.
    3) Interior Design – though I will say in many self-pub books you can tell this is where the corners were cut and I’ve read many…quite frankly most “do it yourself” interiors don’t look professional. If you are going to DIY then pick up your favorite book and try to mimic it. Look at the margins, the spacing between lines, the font being used, the size of the text. Where and what are on the headers, where are the page numbers. And please….never use a san-serif font (one that does not have little strokes at the end of characters) In other words chose Times New Roman or similar over Arial or similar.

    Not trying to take business out of our moderators pockets but you MUST think about ROI and $650 on a 500 book sell through is $1.30 a book – if you can DIY or get this price down to $150 ($0.30 a book) by having a graphic design student doing it then I would recommend that approach.